Curse

Guinevere Ac · Aug 09, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

Hi, i know this is something radical, but i think it's the only solution for ppl that TRULY want BADLY the survivor title on thei 13+ months old main characters.
why dont create a special NPC that resets your xp upon request, take u back to level 1?
u should keep all previous titles and skill but u return at 0xp and 0deaths so that u can actualy go for this title.

i'd be the first to throw 5milion xp in the wastebin to have the chance to gain this title.

impressions? bitching?

Sylphon · Aug 09, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I Would Too

Pillz_veritas · Aug 09, 2006, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Hmm... No, I dont think so. This would (as much as I hate to say it) unbalance the game.

1. Entering Low Level arenas with Endgame skill/armor
2. More efficient 55 farming (lower level = lower health)
3. Makes the title easier to get for characters who had the opportunity in the first place to obtain it, characters made since factions was release.

And thats about it.

myswheels · Aug 18, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I think this is a great idea, it is unfair for the survivor title to be ungettable for older chars.

TGgold · Aug 18, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

I like the idea too.
For those who say "oh noes, endame armor in early pvp" well...it already is there...and I doubt survivor characters would risk participating in any kind of PvP until they got the title they wanted.

PS: This wouldn't help 55ing...you'd have no attribute points....

thrashbasket · Aug 18, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by myswheels

ungettable

it's only ungettable if you died.

Bark · Aug 18, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by thrashbasket

it's only ungettable if you died.

Well, say someone that have a 13 months old charakter with 0 deaths

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 18, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Instead, I think we should have the title available to anyone, but everytime yuo die, the survivor title resets and you need 500 more xp for the title.

Bark · Aug 18, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I really like that idea Marty, poor my ele if that happends tho, just passed the 1000 deaths border

mega_jamie · Aug 19, 2006, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by Bark

Well, say someone that have a 13 months old charakter with 0 deaths

That character should (assuming its atleast level 20 or past the exp marker for getting R3 survivor) get the title the next time they gain experiance.

tpolisher · Aug 19, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Instead, I think we should have the title available to anyone, but everytime yuo die, the survivor title resets and you need 500 more xp for the title.

The title for this would have to be: Survivor Wanna Be.

The point of being a "Survivor" is NO deaths....ever!

I would go for resetting a Tyrian level 20 character back to baby hood however, it would be a long tedious process to get back to level 20 since all the quests and early experience is gone for them. It would require "power leveling" which is defeating the purpose of being a survivor in the first place. What real danger is there in that?

If the devs were of a mind to, they could make this possible, with a special area, only those chars that have reset to level 1 could access, with enough quests and exp rewards to do to get them to the first level of survivor (approx. level 20). Then at that point they could rejoin the "real" world and go from there.

Just a thought.

Phaern Majes · Aug 19, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Uh its called, delete character. You can even remake them the same class and use the same name! And if its about the titles already earned well tough luck

Most peoples titles aren't real hard to obtain again, only one I'd give ya is a drunkard title :S

LordTerror · Aug 20, 2006, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by tpolisher

It would require "power leveling" which is defeating the purpose of being a survivor in the first place. What real danger is there in that?

I agree.

The only danger in power leveling is the risk of loosing something. If you spent 3 hours getting ready to get power leveled (getting skills, tanking gear, runs, etc), you have something to loose. If all you have to do is reset the exp so you can try again, it would make the title be nearly worthless.

Malice Black · Aug 20, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

i wouldnt throw away millions of exp for a stupid title that many ppl hold in contempt

when i see a survivor title most of the time i go "wow PL's have been busy again"

i know not all ppl got PL to get title and even less admit to getting PL but it happens and that imo made the title cheap and worthless..im aware that most titles are farmable and that my statement can be aimed at many of them.

I R Chewy · Aug 20, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Bark

Well, say someone that have a 13 months old charakter with 0 deaths

well, i have 173 deaths, i'm close, right? do i win?

shadowfell · Aug 20, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

You have.. died..

Thus your character is not a survivor. End of Story.

Avarre · Aug 20, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Instead, I think we should have the title available to anyone, but everytime yuo die, the survivor title resets and you need 500 more xp for the title.

Ok, so that's 5 million I need for legendary survivor... yay?

tpolisher · Aug 21, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Uh its called, delete character. You can even remake them the same class and use the same name! And if its about the titles already earned well tough luck

Most peoples titles aren't real hard to obtain again, only one I'd give ya is a drunkard title :S

Yes, Anet has made it where you have to be delete happy to so much of the game. Case in point, release Prophecies with 6 character classes and 4 slots. Release Factions with 2 new character slots (8 total now) and 2 additional slots (total 6 now). In order to play one of every character you have to delete characters and heaven forbid you want a PVP slot.

They did however remedy this, almost a year and a half after Prophecies release with the purchase of extra slots.

Now deleting is such an easy thing to do, type in the name, click a button and Waaaalah its gone. However nothing can be said for the hours and hours spent building that character, getting all the skills and elites (I am kinda anal about that) and the gold spent for armor (yeah I know...it isn't real), none of which can be retreived.

Then if you do this, you stand a chance of losing more than just the character...case in point, with the release of Factions came Birthday Presents. These presents are given to each character when it reaches one year old. I've been playing this game since beta (the very first beta weekend event). I had my character from beta the day Prophecies was released (well not the character since it was deleted...but the name) so my character would have been one of the first to get a BD present...except that I deleted her to make a Ranger lol. Not whining I waited 2 months and had 3 chars that got presents, just saying, we can't see the future when we click that button in the present. And please don't get me wrong...I think the BD present is one of the most special things Anet has done for its players, even though some people would rather sell them.

All that said to say....some people don't want to throw away hours upon hours upon hours and if they want to give up part but not all...why not make it possible. I for one don't want Survivor on any of my old characters, I have a first level Assassin (she died in Sorrows Furnace with a little over 100K to go), deleted a first level Ranger to make what I am hoping to be third level Monk. (yes that is without the help of power leveling, I don't believe in that and monks never sit long without getting a group lol)

Guinevere Ac · Aug 22, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by shadowfell

You have.. died..

Thus your character is not a survivor. End of Story.

noone told us that there would have been a point in playing focusing in having no deaths. is told we'd played in a different way dont u think?

arcanemacabre · Aug 22, 2006, 10:04 AM // 10:04

A more elegant solution, IMO, would be to allow someone to delete their character, then start over with the same 'character ID'. Essentially as long as you made the same character class with the same name (being that armor appears not to choose gender - armor left in your storage on one gender changes when you log in with another gender), then all items and armor that was customized to that name/class work fine, and all skills you unlocked with that character are available (but maybe you cannot access the elites until level 15 or something).

It accomplishes roughly the same thing, except it's like being 'born-again' (and not in the religious way). So all character titles you had before are gone, all map coverage, mission completions, everything, fresh as new. I think that's a fair enough trade to be considered a 'Survivor'.